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Re: Rye in turmoil?

Postby sidlee » Sat May 05 2012, 07:48

jim13759 wrote:Barbie

I don't think you should try and defend bad sportmanship , when you yourself are so guilty of it.

At the last Home game of the season (against St Francis) you were announcing the score of the Three Bridges game to the players over the tannoy , as each goal went in on you came so that your players would know what they had to do...this is such bad sportsmanship which I have never heard at any other ground.
Give the scores at half time and full time but NEVER during a game.
You are exactly the sort of person that causes people to lose respect for Rye



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Re: Rye in turmoil?

Postby blueboybird » Sat May 05 2012, 08:35

Spot on Geoff. Seems more and more people are seeing the same thing.
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Re: Rye in turmoil?

Postby Geoff » Sat May 05 2012, 10:51

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Leave it Geoff.
1. It was years ago
2. You claim this was done by Rye - We have always pointed out that we believed it to be a protest by EP supporters and our actions in not removing said banner were to prevent any further escalation. (As I recalled, the banner said something like Justice for Vic - Don't scab.)
3. You made a complaint to the county at the time which was investigated - and we were EXONERATED!
4. I would suggest that your comments are therefore libelous and the administrator should do something about it. :goodgrief:


I pretty much remember you admitting it. Doesn't matter if it were 10 years ago or 10 days ago, it still leaves a sour taste in the mouth, one you wouldn't want repeated at another club, fortunately most clubs show mutual respect for each other no matter the reason. Oh and EP people going the God knows how many miles to Rye to make a protest? And they did the pinning up of paper reports in the clubhouse to no doubt? Don't make me laugh fella.
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Re: Rye in turmoil?

Postby Oaker » Sat May 05 2012, 13:46

Barbie, i'm well versed in the concept of sarcasm - as an habituee of Mile Oak Rec. how could i not be :roll: I just failed to recognise it on this occasion! :oops:
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Re: Rye in turmoil?

Postby Barbie » Sat May 05 2012, 21:03

jim13759 wrote:Barbie

I don't think you should try and defend bad sportmanship , when you yourself are so guilty of it.

At the last Home game of the season (against St Francis) you were announcing the score of the Three Bridges game to the players over the tannoy , as each goal went in on you came so that your players would know what they had to do


Err. I think you'll find that by that point in the season Rye had to win every game anyway.
I think you'll also find that there was only one tannoy announcement during play (an error I acknowledged at the time and proferred my apologies to a County official present)

I have never defended bad sportmanship. I reiterate that we believe the incident in the early 2000s was the work of disgruntled EP supporters, we took the decision not to remove the banner in consultation with the match officials so as not to escalate the situation as we were unaware if this was the work of an individual or a bunch of nutters of the like that have been seen at some Littlehampton games this year.
Geoff has never accepted this and never will. He complained to the county and I discussed the issue with Mr Bentley on Xmas Eve of that year.
It's over. Done and dusted.
GEOFF. The only thing I've admitted was not taking the stuff down.

I have seen some crappy behaviour at Rye and do not condone it. I have also encountered some crappy behaviour at other SCL clubs that I believe should have no place in our game. Life's too short. We should have all learnt that by now.
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Re: Rye in turmoil?

Postby Geoff » Sat May 05 2012, 23:10

Perhaps when your 'crappy behaviour' has changed somewhat, not just around the circuit, but also on the internet, you'll find a bit more respect coming your way. I have never understood this Rye siege mentality, and quite frankly I never will. And you can scream your innocence from the top of the lift at Hastings but you will never convince me. And let's face it Barbie, you seriously know what happened that day. But I do understand, even after a decade, that you cannot hold up your hands, it may have consequences as it went officially to the County League. But we both know fella.
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Re: Rye in turmoil?

Postby Eyes » Sun May 06 2012, 07:11

Zzzzzzz move on geoffrey, its no different from you sticking up for east preston old boy
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Re: Rye in turmoil?

Postby jim13759 » Sun May 06 2012, 08:46

Barbie wrote:
jim13759 wrote:Barbie

I don't think you should try and defend bad sportmanship , when you yourself are so guilty of it.

At the last Home game of the season (against St Francis) you were announcing the score of the Three Bridges game to the players over the tannoy , as each goal went in on you came so that your players would know what they had to do


Err. I think you'll find that by that point in the season Rye had to win every game anyway.
I think you'll also find that there was only one tannoy announcement during play (an error I acknowledged at the time and proferred my apologies to a County official present)

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Err.Actually Rye did not HAVE to win all their games , they just had to do better than bridges , if bridges had lost Rye could have drawn and still kept in the title race , you obviously knew that and were relaying this to the team
.I was there and heard you cock a hoop when announcing Bridges were 1-0 down , then 2-0 down, and almost pissed myself laughing when you had to announce they had got it back to 2-2.
Your voice went from joy to bitter disapointment
Having made the "error" its a shame you had to sneak off to a county offical and not make an apology over the tannoy.

The Rye mentality is exactly the same as Man Utd , fine when we are winning , in fact cocky when we are winning but always hard done by when something goes againt us. WEARE NEVER WRONG

It made me laugh yesterday when Alex Ferguson was interviewed on the radio bemoaning that the FA had belittled the cup by playing the final at 5:15 , he seems to be very self righteous now , but hey Alex we all remember when you belittled the F A Cup by pulling out of it to go and play in a world tournament , citing that you did not have a big enough sqaud to play in both and could not field reserves in the cup.
LOL and then in the next League cup round suddenly you play a team of reserves.
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Re: Rye in turmoil?

Postby Barbie » Sun May 06 2012, 13:18

When you have put in work and money to the game, not just at one club but at a number in East Sussex and Kent, come back to me.

I'm still smarting from the 'Bad Sportsmanship' comment.
I've spent too much time building bridges with people and defending unpopular causes (you may recall a run in with OMIB) to be accused of undermining the game I love.
Truth is, I'm a groundhopper. I got involved in Rye when they needed help. When they were OK, I walked away. When they ran into trouble, I returned. When they were on the road to recovery, I walked away. When the clubhouse burnt down, I returned.
When offered a committee pass, I decline. I choose to pay at away games because at step 5 every penny counts.
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Re: Rye in turmoil?

Postby Geoff » Sun May 06 2012, 13:29

Barbie wrote:When you have put in work and money to the game, not just at one club but at a number in East Sussex and Kent, come back to me.

I'm still smarting from the 'Bad Sportsmanship' comment.
I've spent too much time building bridges with people and defending unpopular causes (you may recall a run in with OMIB) to be accused of undermining the game I love.
Truth is, I'm a groundhopper. I got involved in Rye when they needed help. When they were OK, I walked away. When they ran into trouble, I returned. When they were on the road to recovery, I walked away. When the clubhouse burnt down, I returned.
When offered a committee pass, I decline. I choose to pay at away games because at step 5 every penny counts.


To be honest Barbie I have not accused you personally once on this thread. Whether or not you had anything to do with our incident a few years ago, only you will know. But you did as a club deliberately wind us up and this has been repeated many times before, only have to see this thread. You, as a club, officials to boot, also use the internet to further this cause of winding up other clubs. Now I know any individual and/or club is perfectly capable of doing the same thing, it just seems that Rye take it to the 'enth' degree. It's a siege mentality. Why?
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Re: Rye in turmoil?

Postby Eyes » Sun May 06 2012, 14:39

Edited and duly warned.

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Re: Rye in turmoil?

Postby Barbie » Sun May 06 2012, 17:39

Geoff wrote:

I pretty much remember you admitting it. Doesn't matter if it were 10 years ago or 10 days ago, it still leaves a sour taste in the mouth, one you wouldn't want repeated at another club, fortunately most clubs show mutual respect for each other no matter the reason. Oh and EP people going the God knows how many miles to Rye to make a protest? And they did the pinning up of paper reports in the clubhouse to no doubt? Don't make me laugh fella.


I think that this suggests that you have implied that it was me. I remeber buying you a pint at Lashmar in an attempt to bury the hatchet.

I hadn't realised how evil I was. It was only re-reading this that I noticed the bit about newspaper reports. I wouldn't have thought this was one for the Rye Observer, so what are we talking about? Littlehampton Gazette? Worthing Herald? :goodgrief:

So, I have clearly driven across the county to buy a newspaper on the off chance that there's an article worth using. That's got to be a 3 hour round trip to find one of those. IT'S NOT CREDIBLE. I may be up for a laugh but I'm not completely crazy. [-x

I can only assume that you believe in conspiracy theories. Where do you stand on the Moon landings? =))

I see you're editing and warning Eyes (I don't know what for) but continue to allow Jim whatever59 to peddle his untruths. (I've checked back - at the time of the Pagham game, Bridges needed 7 points from 4 games to win the title - whatever Rye did would have been irrelevant. This is same man who made a statement that the Rye players had all left the pitch before the presentation of the league trophy - which has been disproved on this site and others)
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Re: Rye in turmoil?

Postby Geoff » Sun May 06 2012, 17:52

I edited and warned Eyes for calling me a Cock. That was his whole message. I would do the same if someone called you or anyone else a Cock. Are you ok with that?

Yes we did bury the hatchet and yes I have nothing but admiration for you and everyone else in non league football that do whatever they can for their club. I am just determining, or trying to, why Rye have a siege mentality on whatever means of media they can. So we'll move on from the Vic Short incident if you want, I shall say no more about it. No conspiracies here fella, I'm just interested to know why Rye feel the need to 'dig in' ... they'll start an incident and then blame everyone else for it. I like Rye, the village is bloody wonderful, and you are blessed to have such a place to live. The football club, in my humble opinion, do nothing to raise the identity of the place and make it a welcome place to be. I would just like to know why you as a club have such a siege mentality?
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Re: Rye in turmoil?

Postby Nomad fan » Sun May 06 2012, 18:19

Sorry to butt in here but all but 2 Rye players did walk off the pitch, into the changing rooms immediately after the Three Bridges game. They seemed to have been kicked out of the changing rooms just as the medals were being handed out as they all trooped out together but I am sure not all the players and management team were on the pitch. I'm not trying to cause another argument but I can appreciate what Geoff is saying here because I have seen it with my own 2 eyes either in person or on here.
People would quite possibly post a little more without the fear of Rye supporters turn it into another ^have a dig at anyone who dares complain about Ryes behaviour either on or off the pitch^
I am glad though that people have the same opinion as myself! :ymapplause:
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Re: Rye in turmoil?

Postby Geoff » Sun May 06 2012, 18:37

I don't know who you are Nomad fan but I do know you like to peruse the boards! I think people have been put off talking about Rye and their behaviour in the past because they tend to be very aggressive in their replies. So perhaps it took me to just put something into perspective. It's like the Fawlty Towers episode with the Yank. Cleese asks who isn't satisfied and they all shut up, to scared to reply. The Yanks speaks up and all the others speak up after him. I like Rye, I like Barbie! One of the mods on Nomad used to be a Rye bloke. But they need to stop being so aloof, in my humble opinion. Integration gets you so many more friends than enemies. Don't think I'll be invited to Rye any time soon!
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